BIM & ROI – It’s time to prove it! #bsl2015

Interview: BIM & ROI – It’s time to prove it!

 11:05 AM – 11:30 AM

James will be presenting on the use of BIM to drive value.

Clients such as James are being asked to fund ever more expensive and time consuming BIM operations on projects, and if they’re going to do so will expect to see a return on their investment.  This may not just be financial, it could be in terms of programme and quality or reduction in risk and cost.  However James argues that a lot of time seems wasted on the process and not the output and as a result clients may begin to wonder if it is worth the effort.

Find out from one of the leading clients in the UK how they are generating return on investment from BIM and what is required from the industry to ensure clients adopt BIM and the reason that they won’t.

Panel Host


James Pellatt
Head of Projects – Great Portland Estates
BIM – fad or fabWe are at a dangerous point in time. Sinclair c5 to electric car, 30 years!The private sector has benefited from the public sector lead. Aim to deliver superior returns. As a client organisation they have taken the lead. Invest in great design, look good and operate well. Know that they don’t have the monopoly on a good idea. No problem with profit. It’s not a dirty word. Long term projects with a 3 year learning cycle. Lessons learnt. 

  1. Be clear in the EIR
  2. Understand the technical limitations of the team an backfill
  3. Structural engineer need to look in both directions. MEP and architecture
  4. Need main contractor buy in
  5. Need to pay sub contractors to supply information model. Ask and then pay. 
Adding value
  1. Prove as built
  2. 4d synchro modelling is extremely valuable to visualise the build. Profit
  3. Don’t need full cobie data
  4. Only need asset info for MEP
  5. To early for 6D
The Gartner hype circle 2014
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BIM does not solve it all. You still have people.
BIM needs to demonstratably protect profit.
FM – 6d is great but think about the person who comes to maintain it. How to make them efficient.
Big focus on MEP
Modelling existing from archive data is not perfect but a bloody good start to make a sensible reduction in risk.
Tens of millions in claims have been made in the past due to late information.
Lessons learned recorded on video
Everyone can work through and make money doing so.
The onus is on the industry. To be successful in 3 years :
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You need a team who are passionate about the project. You need someone to answer all the difficult questions and that’s the client. Otherwise the team will interpret it.
People think they know what FM is but the reality is much harder.
Asset info collected a year before to tender the project.
Capex driven.
Rent and yield drive everything.
Cost of carbon might be an opportunity.
Improve the cost of of carbon offsetting by whole lifecycle costs and recycling.
Occupiers do not always want to engage staff due to fear of what might arise.
4 or 5 years of projects to collect comparison data before BIM will sway investors/banks.
BIM exposes bad behaviours.
It’s about better outcomes.
Designers and contractors are not yet turning BIM into sound commercial reality for clients. Still open.
Positive feedback on the BIM for clients task group.
Could we make the difference now? There is hope.
Concerns that the BIM objectives will vanish with a change in government.
The challenge is in the supply of skills.
In bad times innovation rises. Revert to type in the good times.
Don’t worry about level 3 get on and crack level 1 and 2.
Building parts don’t get chosen until a long way down the road. Three years in on a five year project.
If we could tender at scheme design stage then it would make early works more efficient and cost effective.
More value starting earlier but that requires a confident and strong leadership from the client.
Cobie has no value at this time. It’s a millstone. But it should become a background task. What are you going to do with it?
Why do you want info and what are you going to use it for?
Biggest frustration is how to capture data during design. Once simplified it can be moved on. Appointment and responsibility matrix.
There should be a recognition that cheapest cost is not the best value.



About Shaun Farrell

I have been involved in the construction sector since 1986 and over the years I have seen things change dramatically. Much of the change has been directly as a result of technology. This blog will be about the key combinations of People, Process and Technology. Any views expressed here are strictly my own.
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